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		<title>by: Trever</title>
		<link>http://phasorburn.com/index.php/archive/big-media-gets-it-wrong-again/#comment-4133</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://phasorburn.com/index.php/archive/big-media-gets-it-wrong-again/#comment-4133</guid>
					<description>Update:  This past xmas my sister and I gave our parents the give that keeps on charging... basic Starchoice.   

They like it except for the fact that they could not get the local (Red Deer) channels in the basic digital package.  

WTF, Starchoice...  All the CBC that you carry should be in the basic digital package.   Its all paid for by taxes (or mostly) anyways...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update:  This past xmas my sister and I gave our parents the give that keeps on charging&#8230; basic Starchoice.   </p>
<p>They like it except for the fact that they could not get the local (Red Deer) channels in the basic digital package.  </p>
<p>WTF, Starchoice&#8230;  All the CBC that you carry should be in the basic digital package.   Its all paid for by taxes (or mostly) anyways&#8230;
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		<title>by: trever</title>
		<link>http://phasorburn.com/index.php/archive/big-media-gets-it-wrong-again/#comment-2808</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 18:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://phasorburn.com/index.php/archive/big-media-gets-it-wrong-again/#comment-2808</guid>
					<description>Yes, there are quite a few people doing OTA still.  People out in the country that don't want to pay for a satellite service for example.    

My parents in particular, can't see the geosync belt due to the trees on their acreage.   Perhaps if the dish were mounted on top of their existing OTA mast it might work.

Their OTA is about 4 channels on a good day, and to receive those they need to use motorized antenna rotor to line up with the direction the desired station (or repeater) is in.

One advantage of moving from NTSC to ATSC for OTA is that digital signals need less radiated power to reach the same distance.... and it is possible that the CRTC will allow them to extend their footprints w/out increasing total power output.

The dirt cheapest Starchoice config that I can find is $80 for a receiver + installation + 10PPV credits and $50 one time programming credit.  After the new-customer signup perks, above, it's $20/month for basic digital which gets you way more channels than they have now.

Except they don't watch a lot of TV and haven't had to pay for cable/satellite since moving to the acreage 20+ years ago, so they (and many others like them) are not likely to want to pay even a basic satellite connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there are quite a few people doing OTA still.  People out in the country that don&#8217;t want to pay for a satellite service for example.    </p>
<p>My parents in particular, can&#8217;t see the geosync belt due to the trees on their acreage.   Perhaps if the dish were mounted on top of their existing OTA mast it might work.</p>
<p>Their OTA is about 4 channels on a good day, and to receive those they need to use motorized antenna rotor to line up with the direction the desired station (or repeater) is in.</p>
<p>One advantage of moving from NTSC to ATSC for OTA is that digital signals need less radiated power to reach the same distance&#8230;. and it is possible that the CRTC will allow them to extend their footprints w/out increasing total power output.</p>
<p>The dirt cheapest Starchoice config that I can find is $80 for a receiver + installation + 10PPV credits and $50 one time programming credit.  After the new-customer signup perks, above, it&#8217;s $20/month for basic digital which gets you way more channels than they have now.</p>
<p>Except they don&#8217;t watch a lot of TV and haven&#8217;t had to pay for cable/satellite since moving to the acreage 20+ years ago, so they (and many others like them) are not likely to want to pay even a basic satellite connection.
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		<title>by: camz</title>
		<link>http://phasorburn.com/index.php/archive/big-media-gets-it-wrong-again/#comment-2807</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 18:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://phasorburn.com/index.php/archive/big-media-gets-it-wrong-again/#comment-2807</guid>
					<description>Shaw is selling the "basic" digital cable boxes for $99, so that is already a pretty reasonable "fix" for those on basic cable.  Rumour has it that the ATSC to NTSC over-the-air converter boxes in the US will sell for approximately the same price (in US dollars).

My HDTV doesn't have an ATSC tuner, you pay a premium for them, and I don't intend to try and receive HDTV content over the air anyway... even if the Canadian networks were broadcasting ATSC, there just aren't enough channels to bother with.

Does anyone *really* do plain old over the air anymore?  As you point out cable won't matter, and if you aren't on cable you are probably on digital satellite (which again is not affected).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaw is selling the &#8220;basic&#8221; digital cable boxes for $99, so that is already a pretty reasonable &#8220;fix&#8221; for those on basic cable.  Rumour has it that the ATSC to NTSC over-the-air converter boxes in the US will sell for approximately the same price (in US dollars).</p>
<p>My HDTV doesn&#8217;t have an ATSC tuner, you pay a premium for them, and I don&#8217;t intend to try and receive HDTV content over the air anyway&#8230; even if the Canadian networks were broadcasting ATSC, there just aren&#8217;t enough channels to bother with.</p>
<p>Does anyone *really* do plain old over the air anymore?  As you point out cable won&#8217;t matter, and if you aren&#8217;t on cable you are probably on digital satellite (which again is not affected).
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		<title>by: trever</title>
		<link>http://phasorburn.com/index.php/archive/big-media-gets-it-wrong-again/#comment-2804</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 05:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://phasorburn.com/index.php/archive/big-media-gets-it-wrong-again/#comment-2804</guid>
					<description>My spam shields are pretty good, but yeah thanks for noticing that.  I think I've gotten that plugged now.

As for staying away from computers... yeah.  somewhat.  I need to unbury my desk at home here first which will involve some bill paying via the computer and paper filing, then load Solaris 10 onto the sparc downstairs.  

After that, take a bunch of photos and post process them on the computer...

er. yeah.  

signing off now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My spam shields are pretty good, but yeah thanks for noticing that.  I think I&#8217;ve gotten that plugged now.</p>
<p>As for staying away from computers&#8230; yeah.  somewhat.  I need to unbury my desk at home here first which will involve some bill paying via the computer and paper filing, then load Solaris 10 onto the sparc downstairs.  </p>
<p>After that, take a bunch of photos and post process them on the computer&#8230;</p>
<p>er. yeah.  </p>
<p>signing off now.
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		<title>by: Zarquil</title>
		<link>http://phasorburn.com/index.php/archive/big-media-gets-it-wrong-again/#comment-2803</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 02:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://phasorburn.com/index.php/archive/big-media-gets-it-wrong-again/#comment-2803</guid>
					<description>Wanna do a little more redacting on email addresses and the like?

I mean, I don't care about canoe, but really now, do you need the extra spam?

And I thought we were on vacation and staying off the computers....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanna do a little more redacting on email addresses and the like?</p>
<p>I mean, I don&#8217;t care about canoe, but really now, do you need the extra spam?</p>
<p>And I thought we were on vacation and staying off the computers&#8230;.
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		<title>by: trever</title>
		<link>http://phasorburn.com/index.php/archive/big-media-gets-it-wrong-again/#comment-2801</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 00:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://phasorburn.com/index.php/archive/big-media-gets-it-wrong-again/#comment-2801</guid>
					<description>Why did I even try to use the web form at Canoe to inform them about their fucked up article?

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"Oda also reiterated calls for Canada to switch to analog broadcast signals by the 2011 transition date fixed by the CRTC." You mean switch to DIGITAL, not ANALOG. "the move will leave television viewers using antennas without access to any channels" Not strictly true. They could still use hd-to-sd converter boxes to use with their existing standard definition television sets or buy hd televisions with ATSC tuners. Thanks for misinforming the public.

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